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April 09, 2008

Video on Flickr

For a long time there have been rumors that photo sharing site Flickr was planning to add video upload capability. While to some this sounded like an obvious and beneficial feature to include, for many other hard core Flickr users the reaction to these rumors ranged from concern that the inclusion of video would change the Flickr community in a negative way to down right anger. The reaction of these users, which seemed for a long time to be the majority or at least a very vocal minority, did not stop the development of this functionality, however. Flickr announced today that video is no longer a rumor.....it is here. Members will be able to upload 90 second video clips to the site, which, presumably, will become part of their media stream. In their release statement, as if foreshadowing what could be their biggest hurdle in the future, Flickr very specifically stated that just as they encourage "sharing photos that you yourself have taken.....video will be no different."

But it wasn't only the fear of turning into another version of YouTube or morphing into a kind of PhotoBucket that drove many Flickr users to speak out against video functionality. In fact, many users were actually concerned that the inclusion of video would change their 'experience' of the site not necessarily because it would become a destination point for silly video clips but because it would change the very nature and 'feeling' of the community, causing exclusionary video-only groups to pop-up and de-emphasizing the community's main focus around photography. Interestingly enough, Flickr itself has fought battles to protect this kind of focus before, even though their efforts angered certain other members of the community. As I blogged in 2006, Flickr enacted a policy that banned screenshots from global search results because they determined that screenshots were not in fact photographs. This policy of protecting the Flickr mission statement on photo sharing was handed down directly from the original founders of the Flickr platform, making many users wonder if the new video features have anything to do with the founders. Several users even expressed the opinion that video on Flickr is actually an effort by Yahoo to compete with Goggle Video and not anything to do with enhancing Flickr user experience.

While members of the Flickr community will likely sit on both sides of the fence of this debate for quite a while, the question still remains. Will this ultimately be a good move for Flickr? As a place on the web long thought of for its community features, best practices, forward thinking functionality and simplistic visual design, in addition to its photographs, will changing the method by which members can communicate actually cause a break down of the very fabric that made Flickr the Webby Award winner for the number one community site in 2007? Will the inclusion of video attract a different kind of user not interested in participating and communicating in the same way many in the Flickr community do currently?

As someone who has used Flickr for over two years and has long said that it is one of my favorite sites on the web, I can certainly understand the concern from users. Changing what Flickr offers to its user can change the type of user, thus changing the type of user groups created, the type of information shared, the type of communication between users and thus the community as a whole. However, all that being said, there are certainly advantages to being able to supplement conversation, information and opinions with video. And I do think that because of the way Flickr inherently operates, the ability to upload video will not immediately become the kind of feature that inundates the site with garbage and instantaneous change. As an example, unlike other sites that would have advertised the new features in bright bold red letters, Flickr only boasts a small little graphic on its home page, almost invisible to anyone not looking for it. Upon logging in, a user is presented with a couple of indications that there is a new feature, a snippet from the Flickr blog, the change from "Upload Photos" to "Upload Photos and Videos" but, in true Flickr style, nothing that disrupts the utility of the home page. As with every other new feature they have released, Flickr seems thus far to be adhering to its long time tradition of simplicity over everything else. And, the fact that these features are advertised in this way, certainly attempts to clarify that this functionality is being released FOR existing users not in a blind attempt to attract a different kind of audience. And for all of that I applaud them so far.....anything else, well, we will have to wait and see.....this could be a really amazing supplement to an already vibrant and interesting community. Let's hope thats how it plays out...

August 04, 2007

Flickr is going to add video

Although rumors have been floating around for a while abut flickr adding video, this post on TechCrunch seems to confirm that this is in fact the case. As much as I understand the progression to video, and the thought from users that it would be very convenient to be able to store and share multiple different kinds of media in one place, there is a part of me that wonders how successful flickr video will be. I think the only way to do it right is to have photos and videos in ONE place, rather then separating them into different streams for each user. Even still, I really do feel that the reason flickr has been so successful is because of their sole focus on photography. From the day I began using it, I thought it was the best photo sharing app on the web and possibly even one of the best social networking sites period, organizationally at least. This feeling hasn't changed despite all the copycats and my increased use of Facebook photos over the last few months, which is also designed and organized pretty well.

Part of the reason I have such loving feelings towards flickr is because of their sole focus on one thing, making it really easy to upload, organize, find and share photos, without the added burden of lengthy personal profiles and silly fringe features. I am not necessarily saying that video fits into the category of being an irrelevant step to take, but I worry about what the inclusion of video may turn flickr into. Unlike many of the commenters on the TechCrunch post, I for one, do not want flickr to turn into YouTube AT ALL. Why should they try to revival a site that has simply become a myspace-like marketing tool? (and a highly unsearchable at that) Although I doubt that the intention of flickr's developers is to become the next YouTube, I am almost ready to say, 'why bother doing it at all?' But then again, it may turn out to be perfectly integrated and very useful....I guess we'll have to see.

June 12, 2007

Flickr's new look!

Along with support for seven new languages (launched this morning), Flickr's front page has had somewhat of a face-lift. They seem to be trying to appeal to a larger and different audience, especially with rumors of video coming soon to the site. Other then the floating logo embedded in the picture, it looks pretty nice. Although I still preferred the old simplistic style.

June 05, 2007

Zooomr...too much like flickr??

I just joined Zooomr, a new photo sharing site whose mission statement is to "connect the world via the moments we capture". The site is trying to copy the structure of flickr so much its scary. The main difference is they offer much less functionality and ease of searchability. They also have no way to invite friends that I could find (big mistake). However, they do offer access to the site in various other languages and unlimited photo uploads (flickr eventually makes you pay for a pro-account). They also have a TV link, although it wasn't working when I clicked on it so I have no idea what it is meant for. I guess I'm not really sure what services this site hopes to provide that would make it attractive to users over the other alternatives out there. But maybe they have stuff in the works....we'll see.

February 09, 2007

Urban Attractors, Private Distractors

I had eluded to this fact on the urban computing blog, but i suppose an official annocement is in order. Startinf next week, I will be working on this project with Eyebeam artist in residence Angie Eng. The project is very interesting and has a lot of cross-over with my own work. We'll see hoe it goes.

November 27, 2006

Flickr Mobile..FINALLY!!!

Flickr announced (about seven days ago....i'm a little behind) that there mobile site is now live, FINALLY! Flickr had a mobile site url for a while, but it seemed to only work with 'old school' users (although I never saw evidence that it actually worked because I don't know anyone with an oldschool login). I don't know about anyone else, but I'm pretty excited about this. Yay! Thats all.

June 08, 2006

YouTube, Google, Yahoo and AOL own what you do

Thanks to the ever wise ITP list for calling attention to this important topic, as it relates to YouTube. As the blog post from the creators of I/ON, contributed to the list by Xinroman, states, YouTube only broadcasts its video in flash video format, which makes it relatively difficult for people to steal the content for purposes outlined in the license agreement. However, it still doesn't change the fact that as a YouTube user, you are giving up certain rights. I did a little digging and found that google, yahoo and AOL video also retain quite extensive rights over your uploaded video content. Even eyespot has a long explanation of the amount of rights you waive when contributing content to their site, although they hide it behind the premise that eyespot is a video mixing community.

With fear in my heart, I signed on to flickr to check what rights I have been waiving to my photographs without even knowing it. Even though they are part of yahoo, they seem to have a little bit more of a flexible agreement (or maybe yahoo is just more adept at making things confusing). It seems that you own your photographs but that if they are public, yahoo can use them for promotional and other purposes.

Much respect to radar, who seem to specify that privacy is their number one concern. No where do they state that they own anything or that you are giving up any rights to your media. But we'll see if this changes once they have a larger user base.

(continue reading this post for highlighted portions of all these 'terms of service' agreements)

I'm not sure how I feel about giving up my rights to my media. I am all for creative commons and opensource material (I've downloaded a few pictures from flickr that weren't my own for certain non-commercial purposes). But it is kind of scary to me that many people DO NOT read the terms of service, such as myself, and may therefor be contributing content that they would not want to end up on some DVD making money for whatever coporate giant they uploaded to. Considering that there are places that do not retain rights to your content, the best advice is to read about what you're submitting to. Or, if you really don't care (which many people seem not to) don't be surprised when something you made ends up somewhere you never intended it to.

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May 30, 2006

Too many media sites

Okay, after signing up for radar and posting some pictures, I just realized that I am sick and tired of signing up for all these different media sites!!!! Now, when I take a picture, what am I going to do....send it to flickr and radar and freeformed, post it to myspace. Too much. There needs to be one great site that does everything I want it to. (which is why I'm creating it)